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AN INTERVIEW WITH
DENIS M. GARRISON
by
Mukul Dahal
( Previously posted in magnapoets.blogspot.com )
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Mukul: Denis, would you please start with the tale of your childhood, schooling and college education with reference to the background against which you emerged as a creative writer? I have seen you dabble in various modes of expression such as haiku, poems, tanka and fiction. Which one do you feel most comfortable at and why?
Denis:
I was born in Iowa farm country in a town that still
had hitching posts for horses-it's values and
attitudes are still with me. For most of the Fifties,
I lived in Japan; in Tokyo, I attended Narimasu
School. It had been the diplomatic corp's children's
school before the war. So, I learned English and
Japanese at the same time and I had the opportunity to
attend Kabuki and Noh, to see the best in bonsai,
ikebana, and other arts. Although I have lost facility
with Japanese over the years, those school years
comprised my childhood and were formative. My
appreciation of Japanese aesthetics underlies my
interest in Japanese short form poetry.
I began writing when I came to Baltimore in 1960 and
had my first poem published that year. My early work
was pretty run of the mill, but a few poems rose above
the others and have been kept. Everything else I wrote
in the 1960s, I have thrown out, including a couple of
bad novels. I got serious about writing in college
(Towson University), got some stories and poems
published, and eventually became the literary mag
editor for the school. I learned editing from some
real pros, which has been a valuable skill since. This
period in my writing culminated in my self-published
chapbook, Port of Call and Other Poems, a run of 300
copies. It was in college that I made a practice of
writing in every sort of form. Free verse was already
very popular, but I like the challenge of writing
under constraints. I believe the pressure of
constraints against free flowing imagination makes for
a creative dialectic in which new things can come into
being.
I never wrote fiction after college. I was a fan of
Lawrence Durrell and totally overwhelmed by his
mastery of language. On the other hand, I went on to a
government post where I wrote vast amounts of
extremely technical legal documents and supporting
analyses, for thirty years. My poetry had a little
resurgence in the late 70s, otherwise, I stayed with
technical writing. But, a few years before retirement
from the government, I returned to poetry with renewed
determination. Although I wrote free and formal verse,
I quickly began to specialize in haiku and, later,
tanka. I think I am drawn to these forms, not only
because of my upbringing in Japan, but because of my
decades of technical writing in which the placement of
a comma could ruin lives. I developed a taste for very
precise writing that had a (for me) novel element of
ambiguity. Today, I think in haiku and tanka terms and
writing them is a natural act of expression, albeit
still very challenging to do well. Mukul: Photography and poetry have become common pursuits of many creative writers these days. What can be the reason for it? How do you manage time for writing poetry, haiku, tanka, fiction, editing e-journals, traveling around and photography? How do you strike balance between family life and your involvement with all these?
Denis:
The internet and desktop publishing revolutions have
brought photography to a new place where computer
manipulation of photographs is a commonplace skill.
Even though I was always a camera bug and later
graduated from New York Institute of Photography, I
was not thinking in terms of illustrating poetry until
I began seeing haiga (haiku with artwork) on the web.
This is an exploding area in haiku circles and will, I
think, continue to be insofar as popular consumption
of poetry is greatly eased by the sugar of graphic
arts. There are a few people around who are doing
genuinely new things with graphics and poetry; a fine
development, I think.
Managing time has never been easy nor will be, for me.
I am impatient and tend to work very fast, so, I do
manage to get a few things done. But, I always feel
that I am weeks behind on everything. So how do I
manage? Being retired now helps tremendously, but
daily life still has its continuing demands. My wife,
Deborah, is apparently infinitely patient and that
helps a lot.
Mukul: I have been a reader of your poems on Magnapoets. What I have found in you is a penchant for writing in various styles. What inspired you for this? You have also created three new poetic forms. Would you tell us how you created them and what necessitated you to create them?
Denis:
Well, as I mentioned, there was a conscious decision
to write in multiple forms because there are skills
that cannot be learned except through practice. A
professional free verse poet may not have to rhyme
verses, but would be a poor poet if he could not.
Discipline is good for artists, poets included. The
disciplined can move on to freedom, whereas the
undisciplined must settle for anarchy.
My three forms, yes, why indeed did I create them?
Two were meant to provide formal analogues for haiku.
One is a seventeen syllable couplet (the crystalline)
and the other is a shortened cinquain (the cinqku).
Although I don't write either often any more, some
other poets have taken these balls and run with them;
they are writing some fine poetry. Myself, I returned
to classical haiku tercets. The third form is a
different story. I have always had an interest in what
is called "sacred geometry." Two related formulas are
the Fibonacci sequence and the Golden Mean ratio. I
combined two mirrored Fibonaccis bracketing a Golden
Mean cinquain to create the form called Nautilus.
Every nautilus I have written has been snapped up for
publication. There really is some magic in those
classical proportions. I am keeping the nautilus in my
toolbox.
Mukul: Looking back in your life as a creative writer, what do you think to have gained so far? What do you think is the most rewarding thing about writing and what is the most distressing thing? You have also taught creative writing in John Hopkins University. Would you tell us a little about your experience of teaching creative writing?
Denis:
What have I gained? Certainly not anything tangible. I
write because I must; it is how I am wired. So, what I
have gained is the release of a multitude of angels
and demons from my mind, the ones that really wanted
out. Life as a poet is improving because it seems to
be more angels than demons these days. The reward in
writing is seeing something new-creative satisfaction.
Nowadays, I am reaping some other rewards, i.e.,
camaraderie with other poets and editors, the
enjoyment of shared interests, intellectual
stimulation from dealing with folks all around the
world. The only thing about writing that distresses me
is the sure knowledge that I will never get it all out
and on paper. The poet as Sisyphus resonates for me.
I taught creative writing in a Johns Hopkins
University program called the Free University. The
experience of teaching undergraduates and graduate
students writing was surprising in that they had
plenty of technical knowledge already. Most everything
you might read in a How To Write book, they were
already on top of. Their concern was universally,
what to write about? They expected there to be a
formula for devising poetry and fiction, a formula
that would tell the writer what to write about. Of
course, they were just voicing the universal poetic
search for the Muse. And, of course, they were young
and inexperienced, but that plight stays with us. How
to avoid the hackneyed? How to avoid writing the
predictable? The answer is to look within and listen.
Everyone has a story to tell. Just sit in a bar one
night and you'll find that out. But folks have this
threshold problem with writing, where they say to
themselves: OK, I want to write something, something
brilliant. And nothing comes. But you can bet that
when they are talking to friends, loved ones, etc.,
there are subjects on which they open up and blossom.
Voila! The material is the muse. Poetry, no matter
how clever, on a subject the poet does not care about
just lies there, dead on the page. So, I told them to
wait for it and that, when the Muse arrives, they may
have reason to be careful what they wish for. After
that experience, I wrote A Poet's Anthem (posted to
Magnapoets in June) which includes this stanza:
Blessed be those who Mukul: Do you have any schedule for writing and reading? I have read about some poets who claim that they write certain number of poems a day. Do you have any such flow so as to claim to write certain number of poems a day? Is there any piece you love to call your signature piece?
Denis:
Absolutely not. Bless all poets who can write on
schedule. I can't. I carry a Moleskin notebook and
pens everywhere I go. I write on restaurant place mats
and napkins, on anything I can grab when the noises in
my head want to become real; if need be, on the palm
of my hand (it washes up!). A large proportion of
poems get tossed out as stillborn. I don't keep them
around to torture, generally speaking. So, my
production is not high in an absolute sense. On the
other hand, the poems that make it past the first
re-reading have a very high chance of being published.
A good poem, I may revise for years.
I don't have a signature piece. The sonnet, The Brink
at Logan Pond, I liked enough to make it the title
poem of my book of formal and free verse. But the
qualities, or merits, of poems vary so widely that
comparing them is, for me, impossible. Some come
right out of my heart, like this favorite of mine, a
haiku on one line:
her small coffin carried through windrows of tattered
petals
Perhaps a good poem to end on is this little haiku:
poems ©Denis M Garrison and Mukul Dahal, 2006 |